Holistic Wellness: Exploring Ways to Wellness

Exploring Sound Healing with Jacquie

Sarah Gorev Season 1 Episode 8

Fancy discovering how sound could transform your wellbeing? In this enlightening episode, experience sound healer Jackie Metzger shares her remarkable journey from traditional healing practices to becoming a sound therapy expert. We dive into the science behind sound healing, from the fascinating crystalline structures in our bodies to how different instruments affect our physical and spiritual wellness. 

Perfect for anyone curious about sound healing, this episode covers everything from simple at-home practices like humming to professional sound therapy sessions. Learn how sound healing helped Jackie, why crystal bowls might not suit everyone (especially if you have tinnitus!), and how even skeptics can benefit from this accessible healing practice. Whether you're battling anxiety, chronic pain, or simply seeking deeper relaxation, this conversation offers practical insights into the transformative power of sound healing. This episode might just inspire you to look at your shower singing in a whole new light! 

Sound healing, while generally safe, can be intense and should be approached mindfully. Certain frequencies and instruments (particularly crystal bowls) may not be suitable for everyone, especially those with tinnitus or hearing sensitivities. For the best experience, start gently and consider working with a qualified sound healing practitioner who can guide you safely through the practice. While there are many sound healing resources available online, ensure you're using them at comfortable volume levels and pay attention to how your body responds.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

Jacquie's website: https://www.empower-your-purpose.com/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JacquieMetzger

 Other resources you may find useful: 

https://www.youtube.com/@MalteMartenMethod

Sonic Wellness Journey: Super Deep Brown Noise Spectrum For Focus Meditation and ADHD Relief: https://youtu.be/-oghf2ByQVc?si=TZX0UPdXWJj6bIHK


Time stamps

00:00 Introduction to Sound Healing with Jackie Metzger

01:05 Jackie's Journey into Alternative Healing

02:47 Discovering Reiki and Sound Healing

06:00 The Power of Tibetan and Crystal Bowls

10:01 How Sound Healing Works

14:46 Practical Applications and Personal Experiences

23:09 Virtual vs. In-Person Sound Healing

26:38 Memorable Moments and Final Thoughts

33:25 Conclusion and Next Steps

Thanks for listening.

Sound Healing with Jacquie

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Welcome to the Exploring Ways to Wellness podcast. Today I am excited to share an episode with a guest who I met a few years ago and was thrilled when she agreed to come on the show. We're diving into the fascinating world of sound healing with Jackie Metzger, a sound and energy healer whose journey began with traditional hands on healing and led her through personal health challenges to discover the transformative power of sound from simple humming to crystal bowls, we'll explore how sound therapy can help with everything from pain management to spiritual connection.

And learn why this accessible practice is gaining attention in the wellness world. Let's get started.  

 

Sarah: Thank you for [00:01:00] joining us, Jackie.

Jacquie Metzger: Well, thanks for asking, Sarah. I can talk about this all day, every day.   

 

Jacquie Metzger: If you wouldn't mind starting just giving us a little bit of background on you looking for an alternative healing modality to begin with, and how you came across sound healing. 

 I kind of was raised with alternative healing. We just didn't call it that. Um, you know, I was raised with hands on healing. I was raised to be connected to a higher power in a way that I could actually communicate with them, connecting to my ancestors, things like that.

Jacquie Metzger: And I've been meditating since I was a little kid. I just didn't call it that. You know, it's interesting when you start studying all these different things and you realise you've been doing something similar, if not the exact same thing for a while. We just, you know, things are just called different things and it may be approached in a different way, but it has the same results.

Sarah: So that was in your family already? Your family was very open to doing these things and you just grew up with it [00:02:00] naturally?

Jacquie Metzger: yeah, and it was like in the box of a religion. But I'm grateful for the deep connection that I was taught and that I learned about hands on healing and I received it and so that wasn't. This wasn't totally foreign to me when it was presented in a different way.

And yeah. And so like music has always been a part of, of my family. My dad's a professional musician and you know, that connection to different instruments. I play different instruments growing up. I could usually pick up pretty easily and I can hear different pitches well. And, I used to be able to read music.

I can't anymore, which is weird, but I used to be able to, my brain doesn't want to accept that anymore for some reason, but.

Sarah: fair enough. 

Jacquie Metzger: I don't need it right now. So it's all good. So then, you know, you fast forward and in 2010 I was diagnosed with cancer and, and so then it's like, okay, I really need to look at my life and change some things.

So I got deeper into [00:03:00] meditation and to stress management and nutrition and things like that. And then a few years later I was diagnosed with Lyme disease. And that

totally rocked my world.

Sarah: yeah.

Jacquie Metzger: That was pretty disabling. And I just remember I was like sitting on my couch talking to the universe. You know, being like, either fix me or I'm done because this is not living.

 And I heard a clear voice telling me to become a Reiki master.

Sarah: Wow,

Jacquie Metzger: Yeah, and I'd never heard of Reiki before. So I googled it and then I booked a session and it was amazing.  

 And then, so then I'm like, okay, I want to learn this because I think I can do everything. Like, I have that like toxic trait that if I watch someone do something, I'm like, I can do that. I can totally do that.

Sarah: So Reiki is, is hands on healing,

Jacquie Metzger: Yeah. Or hovering and it can be done by distance as well. Um, but that's, yeah, [00:04:00] so that's how I experienced it. And then when I did, I was like, this is what I've been receiving my whole life. 

Sarah: I'm thinking, does that relate to something that was happening before and actually that was giving it a name and, and giving it a more kind of structured practice maybe,

Jacquie Metzger: yeah, well, and before, so the culture that I grew up in, only men were healers. And so, men did the hands on healing and they gave readings. They just called it something different. so then I was able to receive that through a woman and then I'm like, Oh, so everybody can do this. 

Sarah: Yeah, everyone can do it. I can do it.

Jacquie Metzger: right. Yeah. And I think it's like, we all, all of us who are in alternative healing, we find it's the first thing we start with, and then it's like the gateway to everything else, because, you know, most of us don't do just one thing. We offer a variety of things.

Sarah: I've definitely noticed that because I'm quite new to energy healing. obviously came in really through EFT. And one of the reasons I've started this podcast is because it's completely opened my [00:05:00] eyes to things. Many were already there. And so it's like a, a, you know, a jewel box almost, you know, it's like, Oh, all these lovely things and how do they work and what do they do? So the podcast is to bring people along on that journey as well as also kind of accessing all these, these different things.

So that's really interesting that, that that's the route that, that was the gateway, if you like, was Reiki and then that opened this world.

Jacquie Metzger: yeah. And I find that that's a lot of people have a similar story. They start with Reiki. I think it's, it's the most known, especially because it's, it's been around for a while. I don't people know that word over maybe even EFT. They still don't even know what EFT is, I have to go, I have to be like, you know, the tapping thing. They're like, oh, okay.

Sarah: I'm the same, 

Jacquie Metzger: so. But with that, and then, so I learned Reiki and then it was like, like you said, you just open up this box and there's so many beautiful other modalities out there. And like, I want to learn [00:06:00] everything. And then, so like I bought this little tiny Tibetan bowl. So like my introduction into sound healing is about this little tiny Tibetan bowl.

And I used to have vertigo so bad every single day and I couldn't move my head. I had to look straight ahead all the time. And so I would just, Strike the Tibetan bowl up and down my body until it sounded right and I can't explain that it's just like a knowing and then everything would feel back in alignment and the vertigo would go away.

Sarah: Amazing.

Jacquie Metzger: Yeah. So to me, that was like a miracle.

Sarah: I wish I'd known about this, I had vertigo last year. I wish,

Jacquie Metzger: Yeah. Well, for me,

Sarah: about this, yeah.

Jacquie Metzger: for me and I've found with my clients to Tibetan bowls are great for vertigo. Crystal bowls are not.

Sarah: Oh, interesting.

Jacquie Metzger: Yeah. Now everybody's different. Everybody's going to receive things in different ways. Um, but like if someone comes to me with vertigo, I don't play the crystal bowls

Sarah: Okay.

Jacquie Metzger: it's, it's already like the swirling [00:07:00] feeling with crystal bowls and it kind of like lifts you up and takes you out of yourself.

We don't need any more swirling if you already have vertigo. Yeah. So, so,

Sarah: interesting, so the Tibetan bowl gives you a different sensation.

Jacquie Metzger: yeah, because it's still, obviously the sounds are still vibrating out and you can sing them. You can sing, you know, either one, but the way that I play it, usually I strike them and just allow that vibration to flow out. And it's in my experience, it's much more gentle and it just like, for me, it keeps me more on my body.

Not that it can't take you to the higher plane as well. But it is, it's more physical for me than the crystal bowls are more like spiritual taking me out of myself, if that makes sense.

Sarah: Yeah, interesting.

Jacquie Metzger: Yeah.

Sarah: you started with the Tibetan bowl.

Jacquie Metzger: Yeah. And then it's like, Oh, let's open, let's, let me start looking into sound healing, you know, and just attending different groups and [00:08:00] people bringing different drums and crystal bowls. And I'm like, I, this, like, there was just this deeper resonance. And then, so I bought my first crystal bowl. And then it's like, and then you just keep buying these pieces.

Until you have like this, you can't see my space, but I just, I have crystal bowls everywhere. I have chimes, drums, a gong over there. Um, just so many different instruments, a flute, a harp, you know, it's just, and there's always more to bring in. Now you don't have to have a full orchestra. All you need is like a couple of instruments to get started.

Even just one, honestly, just your voice. If you really, if we really want to go deep. Yeah. So, it just sound healing reached me on such a deeper, different level than anything else.

Sarah: Yeah, I can see how the bowls, I mean, you've got some behind you, which are [00:09:00] absolutely beautiful. And I can, I could almost imagine kind of getting a bit addicted to seeing different ones and wanting to buy

Jacquie Metzger: Yeah.

Sarah: and more. But presumably, They all bring something different in terms of frequency or, or the sound that they make.

Jacquie Metzger: Yeah. And, with the crystal bowls, they're very exact. And so each one is going to be a certain note. Each one is going to be a certain, um, like frequency and Hertz and, and they are made to be very, very precise. The Tibetan bowls, they're, they have a little more flexibility. in the range that they can give.

And so, I mean, some of them are specific, like I have something that's called a ring gong, and that's to the note of F. And so that one is a lot more precise, but again, depending on how you strike it and if you sing it, it's going to show up differently each time.[00:10:00] 

Sarah: Okay.

 How does it work with the different frequencies and, you know, what, what is going on? How is this feeling working? What is this, you know, this magic?

Jacquie Metzger: If we go with the simplest explanation is that they're sound waves. And so most of us have learned about sound waves in school and our body is mostly water. Hopefully, you know, around 70 percent if we're were hydrated. And so those sound waves are going into our bodies and gently moving the water in our bodies.

So it's creating this like massage, let's just say this internal massage with sound in such a gentle way that it allows for deeper relaxation and allows for stress relief. Pain relief. It can take you to that in between space where healing is, [00:11:00] can go deeper. And it's like that magical, you're not, you're not fully awake, but you're not asleep.

And it's that altered state of consciousness. And that's where some people can have spiritual experiences, or they can see colours or hear messages or, you know, or some people just go, this is the first time they've been able to relax in years.

Sarah: Yeah.

 Knowing that you were coming on, I had a sound healing session and I was just amazed how in, you know, not very long, it was nice listening to the sound, but once it finished, I felt like I'd had this very long sleep

Jacquie Metzger: Yeah.

Sarah: knew I hadn't, I hadn't fallen asleep at any point, but I was more rested than I'd felt in such a long time, it had such an incredible effect in that, in that sense.

And don't we all need more rest?

Jacquie Metzger: Right. And deep rest because a lot of us don't sleep well. [00:12:00] And, and so it's like, okay, like how many of us are like, well, I slept for eight hours, but it doesn't feel like I slept at all. And so we're not rested. And so sound healing and other modalities as well can just take you to that state of that deeper relaxation where you're not having to do anything.

You're not having to be anything. You're just present. And if you can surrender to it. It can relax you in that deep way and then allow yourself to start healing when our nervous systems are overstimulated, which most of us are overstimulated. We can't heal. We can't relax. We're more self centered even like when our nervous systems are overstimulated, it's just this chaos within us that creates chaos around us.

And so if you can take that time, 30 minutes, an hour, whatever you can do just to be and allow the frequencies of sound to just balance everything [00:13:00] out, smooth everything out, soothe your nervous system, then it's like you come out a different person.

Sarah: Yeah, that sounds amazing. So would you say it almost takes a meditation to another level? I've done another episode on Transcendental Meditation and it was, you know, about taking that pause and that 20 minutes of just, just sitting and being. But. It sounds like within that time, it kind of takes it to another level because of the frequencies that you're using.

Jacquie Metzger: Yeah. Cause with, with meditation, which meditation is amazing on its own, that's all you and, and it does amazing things to our brains and our bodies as well. But when you add in sound, that's bringing in the external healing as well, using these different tools just to take it to another, yeah, like another level.

It's not better than it's just different than. [00:14:00] And for some people, they need that external vibration to take them to that meditative state. Some people can't get there on their own, even with like other types of music or whatever breath work, you know, everyone is different.

Sarah: Yes.

Jacquie Metzger: you, yeah, you find what resonates best for you and what takes you there easier and faster.

Sarah: Yeah. So would you say something like sound healing is something that you would do daily? Do you have it as part of your daily wellness routine, for example? Or is it something you draw on when you need it? Or is it something that it's kind of once a month you find it makes a big difference? How do you use it?

Jacquie Metzger: So all of the above, um, like for me, so really like we are our own instruments. We are our own healing instruments and that comes through our voice. So, you know, [00:15:00] if you spend a few minutes just humming, even just a few seconds humming and just notice how that feels and what that by that inner vibration that it creates, you're creating frequencies within yourself of healing with your own sound.

And that's really all you need. All the other instruments are like bonus. But even if you just, yeah, so even if you just sit for two to three minutes a day humming whatever way feels best, because we don't want to push ourselves and we're not singing. So it's just that internal vibration. And then if you have an intention with it, you like boost it even more.

And then if you get even more adventurous, you can start toning, which is even more magical. And then it's like, it's this internal vibration coming out. So then you have your own sound, your own healing sound inside and out. And that can also take you to a meditative [00:16:00] state as well, or just make you feel good.

Receiving your own healing sound.

Sarah: Yeah, that's so powerful that you can have such an impact on yourself just so simply just using, using your own sound.

Jacquie Metzger: Yeah. Cause, I mean, it's,

Sarah: and that's very personal because everyone will hum differently and it will feel different to everyone because you hear it differently.

Jacquie Metzger: mm hmm. Yeah.

Sarah: And would you say, on an aside, would you say that's one of the reasons people get so much out of things like choirs and doing that collective group of making a sound together? So,

Jacquie Metzger: think, well one, it feels good to sing. It feels good to hum. And I think so many of us have been taught, or we think, well, if I don't sound like a professional singer, then I can't sing. And that's a lie. Like, no matter how it comes out, you're receiving [00:17:00] benefits. And then when you come together, we naturally start harmonizing with each other.

Um, you know, I know some people call themselves tone deaf or whatever, but the more you practice, the better you will be. So everyone can get to some state of a pleasant voice. You might not be a great singer, but, and that doesn't matter. It really is about finding that tone that feels best for you and then coming together, singing, toning, chanting, whatever, together.

It just naturally starts combining and creating this beautiful healing sound. And even sounds that kind of sound like, oh, that wasn't that great. There's a purpose there. There's something like even if you hear a sound like, oh, or you sing an off note or somebody else sings an off note, it's opening something in you.

It's disrupting something in you to create a pathway for healing.

Sarah: That's beautiful, and as someone who kind of was never picked for the school [00:18:00] choir and that kind of thing, the fact there's still hope for me is just,

Jacquie Metzger: Yes.

Sarah: it's just wonderful. fact that's so accessible as well, I love the way you've explained that. And I guess, does that also link into, you know, things like singing in the shower in the morning puts you in a much better mood.

Yeah.

Jacquie Metzger: Yeah. Yeah And we always sound better in the shower. Like the are great in there and that gives confidence. You're like, Oh, I sound pretty good. Or that, you know, and that felt really good. And then like, okay, let's talk about the power of water. And so you're, as you're singing and you're feeling good and you're.

I don't know, you're just, you're taking your, you're raising your vibration, then the water is amplifying that, so not only is it amplifying the, your internal water, but it's the water on the outside coming in, it's like such an incredible healing space. In that moment. If you want to sing in the shower.

Sarah: So I'm sure there's some of the listeners are thinking, [00:19:00] actually, I'm doing some sound healing. I've started

This is amazing.

Jacquie Metzger: Exactly.

Sarah: that.

Jacquie Metzger: Yeah. And that's really all you need, like, if you want to get to the basics of it, and, and then just start playing with it. Because to me, it's like, start playing with your instrument, who you are. And, and if you want to share it with other people, great, but you don't have to. 

The stress is we're not worried about sounding good doing air quotes. Um, it is just about what feels good.

Sarah: And then are there certain issues that you may have that sound healing is really good at treating or helping with, and how would you then go about approaching those?

Jacquie Metzger: Um, yeah, to me, I mean, I feel like sound healing is good for everything. Um, but also. Like, like the practical things. Let's talk about some of the things that aren't necessarily, it's not great for, like, crystal bowls are not good. If you have [00:20:00] tinnitus, I do not recommend crystal bowls. That can make it worse.

Temporarily, rarely does it, it's not going to like make it worse forever. I'm not a doctor, so I'm not giving any medical advice.

Sarah: Of course, yeah. Yeah, important to say.

Jacquie Metzger: Right. And I'm also, I'm not, I'm also not like a clinical therapist or anything like that. This is just my experiences is the crystal bowls are more intense for lack of a better term.

Sarah: Okay.

Jacquie Metzger: so, um, they can get really loud. And so you want someone who is skilled in being able to play them in a safe way.

Because just like anything else.

Sarah: going on Amazon and just, just saying, Oh, that look, that one looks pretty and going for it. It's, you

needs

what they're doing with the crystal bowl.

Jacquie Metzger: Yeah. Yeah. Cause and that's this like the beauty and just be [00:21:00] cautious about sound healing is anybody can buy these bowls. Anybody can buy any of these instruments and just start playing them without necessarily knowing like, okay, what are the precautions to take? So like I wear earplugs, I didn't wear earplugs for a long time and then I noticed I was having some issues with my hearing and then I developed tinnitus.

And I don't know why I didn't think about I was like, so I started researching like correct earplugs. Well, there's earplugs for musicians. I don't know why that didn't dawn on me before.

Sarah: Yeah, of course. Yeah.

when you're, when you're doing your sessions for somebody else,

Jacquie Metzger: right. Yeah.

Yeah. So, you know, think about it because it is sound. So protecting your hearing, protecting your body, because a lot of times when we're playing, it's like we're hunched, we could be hunched over. And it's like a lot of repetition and your movement so that you want to watch your shoulders like there's just some practical things also to think about.

If you want to practice sound healing to just make sure that your [00:22:00] body is continually taken care of. And when you are playing, so you are receiving the vibration, but it's going to be a different experience than if you were the clients, and it's a different experience for your client.

Sarah: Okay.

Jacquie Metzger: But I mean, people with anxiety respond really well to sound healing. People who have pain respond really well. People who want to go on a spiritual journey respond really well. So it just really is. What is your intention? What are you looking for? And the sound healer, the sound therapist, we can be called different things.

They can create something for you.

Sarah: I guess that's where that benefit comes from going to somebody who has experience in sound healing

Jacquie Metzger: Right.

Sarah: identify the right to go about it for exactly what you've got going on,

Jacquie Metzger: Yeah.

Sarah: to kind of the everyday, which you can do yourself just to

Jacquie Metzger: Right.

Sarah: [00:23:00] topped up on the right level,

Jacquie Metzger: Yeah.

Yeah.

Sarah: what would happen in a sound healing session? Now

Jacquie Metzger: and like, another thing to think about this too, is you can receive sound healing virtually too, that also, has great benefits. So you could do it in person or virtually and either way, you're going to receive whatever you need. And that's just a personal preference. So, obviously if you're receiving it virtually, you have control of the volume, but, 

Sarah: I was just going to say I did wonder about that actually because now obviously with with COVID and we're suddenly in an in an era where everything is accessible online whether there is a difference to having an in person experience versus a virtual one but from a sound perspective it sounds like it doesn't necessarily make a difference depending on your speakers I guess.

Jacquie Metzger: right. And your personal preference, um, cause obviously it is going to be different in person. You are right there next to the [00:24:00] instruments. And so you may have more of a physical response because you're right there with the instruments, but I've had so many people tell me how surprised they were that they had a full body experience virtually.

Sarah: Wow,

Jacquie Metzger: yeah, and I have had some clients who, um, they started off receiving sound healing virtually because of COVID through for me and they weren't local. So I'm like, go, you know, go check out a local one and see, and they didn't like it because it's, it was like overstimulating for them,

Sarah: okay.

Jacquie Metzger: you know? And like some people cannot relax in their own space and they need to go somewhere else.

They need to be in person. So it's, I like it both ways. You know, there's a, there's a part of it that's like, it's nice to be in your own space if you have a quiet space to be all cozy and comfy. And then when it's done, you can just like, take a nap or whatever you need to do. Like, when I receive sound healing in person, I need to like, be still for a while because it's just such [00:25:00] this incredible experience and you need to bring all your energy back into yourself.

Um,

so.

Sarah: see that kind of having to leap into a car and drive home

is not exactly, uh, extending the experience in quite the way you want to.

Jacquie Metzger: Yeah. Yeah. Because usually you need a little bit of time to like, come back to yourself. And so, and again, that's where it's like, just working with someone who, who knows what they're doing and who can hold space for you and then in a safe way like that, and being able to have a conversation before and a conversation after, if you're having that one on one or like a group session where it is live.

Of course, there are recordings that you can do, which are also great. Yeah. Um, but I think it's, it's really important to advocate for yourself. Like if there are instruments that you don't like, or if you're starting to feel, um, cause like with anything, anything new, you can start to have anxiety. And so just [00:26:00] know that about yourself.

Don't suffer through anything is like what I'm trying to say, and just allow the energy to flow. 

Sarah: Yeah. You need to just be aware of yourself and your body and what, what feels good and what doesn't and when to stop

Jacquie Metzger: yeah,

Sarah: to avoid certain things.

Jacquie Metzger: yeah. And too, I would say 99 percent of people love sound healing and it's amazing for them. And there's a 1 percent that hates it. And it is not for them. And that's okay.

Sarah: Yeah.

Jacquie Metzger: Like don't force yourself to like, is what I'm trying to say.

Sarah: Yeah, I love it. So are there any particularly memorable moments that you've had with your sound healing journey that stick in your mind?

Jacquie Metzger: I think I remember I did a group sound healing and a woman came. I didn't know her and I didn't know that she had just had surgery and she had been, or she'd had surgery a while ago. Anyway, she'd been in so much pain for such a long time. [00:27:00] And she came up to me afterwards and she said that that was the first time in like a year that she hadn't had pain in her foot.

Like she'd had all these kinds of problems with her foot. Um, you know, and that was significant to think that like you could spend an hour completely pain free when you'd been in such excruciating pain for so long.

yeah, and I hear stories like that all the time. People come to me or, you know, and like I had someone come and they'd been experiencing like tremendous pain in their shoulders.

where they couldn't even move their shoulders and after our session, she had full range of motion.

Sarah: Wow.

Jacquie Metzger: yeah, so it's like it will absolutely work on a physical level, emotional, mental, and spiritual. And then what I really love because I am, I lean more into the spiritual side of things. And so when people tell me afterwards, that's the first time that.

They felt like they'd connected to God or they met their guides for the [00:28:00] first time or their mom came to them or whatever. It's like holding a safe space for someone to have such an intense and beautiful spiritual experience that happens all the time. And I can not get enough of that.

Sarah: Yeah, that sounds incredible,

Jacquie Metzger: Yeah.

Sarah: especially, I guess, when must have a certain percentage come in as well and are kind of a little bit skeptical. Kind of wondering, oh, what's this, somebody, somebody bought me a voucher or

Jacquie Metzger: Yes.

Sarah: should, I should come to, to support my friend or something like that.

Jacquie Metzger: Yeah. A lot of spouses will show up and they're like, I don't know why I'm here, know? 

Sarah: Do you feel like that you need to be in the right mindset in order to relax into it and get the benefit of it? Or do you find that even if somebody is quite sceptical when they arrive, they also quickly change their minds [00:29:00] or still have the experience that they need to.

Jacquie Metzger: Yeah. To me, it's, they will have the experience that they need to show up exactly as you are. Just have an open mind. Like, that's the only thing is just say, what if, what if this could work? What if, you know, like some people fall asleep and start snoring and that's okay too. like.

Sarah: what they needed. Yeah.

Jacquie Metzger: Exactly, like letting go of all expectations and just coming in with an open mind because that's another beauty of sound healing is that it is.

It's scientific. It can be clinical. It's therapeutic. It doesn't have to have spirituality in it at all.

Sarah: Okay.

Jacquie Metzger: Yeah. And, and so this doesn't have to be like, quote unquote, what we would say, woo, or, you know, it is just another alternative type of healing therapy. And so you can think of it like that. It's sound therapy.

If sound healing sounds too woo. Then just call a sound therapy. It's the same thing. It's just however you come into it. You may have [00:30:00] a spiritual experience or you may not. If that's not your thing and you don't want that, you just want a physical healing, then that's what you'll receive.

Sarah: Yeah. Fantastic. And you mentioned there on the scientific level. 

Jacquie Metzger: Yeah. Well, and even so, like, super cool thing about crystal bowls is that we have crystalline structures in our bodies. We have them in our bones, we have all these different crystalline structures that will resonate perfectly with the crystal bowls.

 It just creates this like perfect resonance and frequency that no other instruments can do. So you're receiving a crystal healing as well as a sound healing that's resonating perfectly with the crystaline structures in your body.

Sarah: Oh, wow.

Jacquie Metzger: Yeah.

Sarah: didn't know any of that. Wow, that's really interesting.

Jacquie Metzger: Yeah.

Sarah: It's literally working on a physical level.

Jacquie Metzger: Yes. And that's the thing. It's like, you can come into a space, you, every single person could speak a different language. And everyone can receive a benefit. Every, [00:31:00] from every type of background, every belief system, they can come into a sound healing experience and receive what they need.

You don't need to be spiritual. You don't need to have a certain belief or not have a certain belief. It's just what does your body want to receive, and it will

Sarah: so, if any of our listeners are interested in sound healing, and they want to progress on from singing in the shower, potentially, or humming away to themselves in the office, how would you suggest that they kind of take the next step? would it be? You know, getting hold of a bowl themselves, would it be a look at some online sessions? would you say is the best natural next step?

Jacquie Metzger: Yeah, I would say definitely like, I mean, it all depends on where you're at and what you feel most comfortable with. There are plenty of sound healers, me included, you know, on YouTube even that have sessions, sound healing [00:32:00] sessions. You can get crystal bowls, Tibetan bowls, all the different instruments together.

You just find whoever you resonate most with. Start listening to that. I always recommend have a one on one session with someone, whether that's virtual or in person, so that you can have those conversations. There are sound baths everywhere as well, virtually and in person. Those are great too.

It just really is. What do you feel most comfortable with? And then, if you feel called to start bringing it into your own personal practice, then work with a sound healer to find the best instruments for you.

Sarah: Oh, that's brilliant advice. From a personal perspective, I tried with downloading some music, healing frequencies

online. And so that kind of resonated with me. with me, but it was a completely different experience to have sound healing session with somebody. I found that really quite a profound experience. So I would highly recommend people trying. At least trying it [00:33:00] once. I mean, I know there's lots of, you know, at festivals now, there's always like a gong bath going on or, even, where I live, there's drumming circles and the sound therapy sessions available to people.

So encourage people to kind of explore this a little bit and have fun with it and see what feels good. uh, this has been a fantastic session. Jackie, I've learned a lot. I'm really glad that you were able to join us today. You've obviously got a website. People can find out more information.

Jacquie Metzger: Yeah. It's empower your purpose. com and, this was just a drop in the bucket, like so many more things are in my brain that I could talk about this forever. To me, it's find someone that you resonate with that can help you on the journey of sound healing, whether it's just to receive healing or to start your own practice.

So that's another thing. I also teach sound healing. I just love this work. Like, so I'm happy to chat, chat about it with anybody and also you [00:34:00] find who you most resonate with as well. There's plenty of us out there who are here to share the beauty of sound.

Sarah: Lovely. I could listen to you forever, Jackie, just listening to your voice. I know you said voices. Voice can be used as well. But, um, yeah, I just, I just love chatting with you about this. Who knows? Maybe we'll have you on again. We'll tempt you back again. To discover even more because the time's gone far too quickly, but thank you for today.   

Thank you for joining us on Exploring Ways to Wellness. A special thank you to Jackie Metzger for sharing her wisdom about sound healing. If you're interested in learning more, you can find Jackie through the link in the show notes.

Whether you start with humming in the shower or book your first sound bath, Remember that healing through sound is accessible to [00:35:00] everyone. like any wellness practice, it's important to approach sound healing mindfully and consider working with a qualified practitioner.

especially when exploring more intense sound experiences. Join us next week for another exploration into natural wellness practices. 

Until next time. I'm Sarah and remember there's many paths to wellness and sometimes they start with simply humming in the shower. 

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